@hypnokinkwithmrdream is posting their old hypnokink class notes under the Fetlife Hypnapocalypse tag. It’s a fascinating read- like having a mini-EEHU in my living room. Since there are a lot of older notes, it’s also an interesting peek into how and when hypnokink culture evolved into what it is now.
Thanks for posting these @hypnokinkwithmrdream!
Personally, I find these posts chilling.
Being so much about the power of suggestion, hypnosis is, to a fair extent, what people believe it to be. What hypnosis is changes over time, as society’s view of it changes.
I happened to be born into a part of space-time where the view of hypnosis meshed with what I was naturally inclined to find hot. It hasn’t always been this way, and, I expect, it won’t always be this way.
Someday, you’re going to leave me behind. You’ll move on to new pastures, where I will not want to follow. When I read things like this (or this, or that vanilla article you linked a while back on waking suggestions that I can’t find), I fear that it is already happening.
I’ve read over two pages of the /chrono version of the tag you linked, and he hasn’t said a single thing that makes me think “yeah, that sounds appealing”. It’s all a mix of things that don’t sound like fun at all and things that sound like they maybe could be fun but in a purely platonic way.
His kink is okay, but it is not my kink. If I’d been raised in a culture where this was the consensus view of hypnosis, I don’t think I would be a hypno-fetishist.
Sooner or later, and perhaps sooner, the future of hypnosis will be defined by people who say things like:
“Honestly I think the ‘relax/sleep/deep’ is counterproductive to what I want. People treat it as an idiomatic crutch but the reality is that I don’t really want any part of the person to sleep. I want them to be so focused that they can barely integrate the experience they are having with anything before, after, or around them.”
I look at that, and all I can think is, “I hope I find my real people before these people realise I’m not theirs.”
(And if I don’t find them in time, at least I’ll have had something resembling a community, and which will have taught me some useful techniques that I’ll likely be able to preserve privately even after they fall out of fashion. The next generation of people like me may be completely alone.)
@brin-bellway I’m not quite sure how to reply here- I think this post is partially a reply to me personally and partially a reply to the community and I don’t know if I can adequately address either.
I have had some of the same feels- seeing people I know get really into the D/s side of the kink or a more sadistic side or just a different side than I was interested in and feeling like I was being left behind or like my more tame interests were silly. I’ve had longer discussions with friends about the hypothetical timeline where I found the hypnokink community when I was young and how it would have pushed me away from learning hypnosis and towards just being a subject (and how sad that divergent timeline makes me).
I have developed a stronger interest in the more BDSMy side of hypnokink myself this past year- partially because I love learning new things and partially to keep up with the community at large. However, kinky or vanilla, I think the things that draw me to hypnosis are still present in either context- creativity, trust, intimacy, and even care. So the kinky stuff feels like an extension for me, not an entirely different thing. But just because I’m exploring more of the BDSM side, it doesn’t mean I’m losing my interest in other ways of doing hypnosis. I love being playful and silly. I love being experimental. I love being therapeutic (in a small way). I love being caring.
And (like you I suspect), one of my favorite ways of doing hypnosis is still to have someone that I care about lead me down into a deep relaxed state and be really gentle and soothing with me. That feels entirely lovely and good and potentially romantic and all of those wonderful things. I know not everyone in the community loves this, but I also know I’m not alone. This is true even amongst the people who talk about playing in ways that are edgier or seem more sadistic.
It’s OK. You still belong. I guarantee that if you came to an EEHU and just wanted to feel lovely and relaxed, there would be other people there who were just as interested in that as you are.
No one is leaving you behind.
@tennfan2 @rightthewaydown anyone else who has comments
>>I think this post is partially a reply to me personally and partially a reply to the community<<
Mostly speaking generally, not so much you. (I know the examples I gave were all things you linked me, but that’s mostly because if someone frequently sets this feeling off I don’t follow them. You’re not frequent.)
>>I’ve had longer discussions with friends about the hypothetical timeline where I found the hypnokink community when I was young and how it would have pushed me away from learning hypnosis and towards just being a subject (and how sad that divergent timeline makes me).<<
I’m not sure what you’re getting at here, in context.
>>And (like you I suspect), one of my favorite ways of doing hypnosis is still to have someone that I care about lead me down into a deep relaxed state and be really gentle and soothing with me. That feels entirely lovely and good and potentially romantic and all of those wonderful things.<<
:)
>>I know not everyone in the community loves this, but I also know I’m not alone.<<
It’s…hard to believe, sometimes. It seems like it tends to be a secondary thing for others, even when it comes up at all.
>>I guarantee that if you came to an EEHU<<
(Oh god, imagine me at an EEHU. Like, even if you ignore the logistical issues*…as I was tag-rambling about recently, I still haven’t really grokked the idea that kink can be consensual. Given how badly I cope with audios, I fully expect my brain would “defend me against the threats” by wrapping me in a protective layer of panic.)
>>No one is leaving you behind.<<
Even when I’m feeling hopeful, I still expect it eventually. Ever since I read that book on animal magnetism and saw how unrecognisable hypnosis used to be, I figured it would end up unrecognisable again in the future. There might, however, be a lot more time to prepare, and a much gentler break.
>>tennfan2 rightthewaydown anyone else who has comments<<
I wonder if I should wait to respond to avoid cross-posting, but I suppose I could always write additional responses to other people later.
(I’m curious what made you think of @rightthewaydown. I don’t really know her, though the fact that she was one of the people that came to your mind makes me wonder if maybe I should. (I did hear her seance audio once, though see above re: coping badly.))
*I can’t afford travel, and I don’t have enough freedom of movement to skip off to America for the weekend (or even Toronto, for that matter) without people asking a lot of uncomfortable questions.
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