welcome–to–awkwardville:

the troubles of a person with prosopagnosia and anxiety:

*sees post with pictures of very popular actor they look at pictures of all day*

*tags it with name of very popular actor*

*almost clicks the reblog button*

*checks pictures five times to make sure the pictures actually portray very famous actor and not someone who looks a bit like him*

*feels ashamed because they literally look at pictures of very famous actor all day so it’s very embarrassing not to be sure if it’s really him*

Would you like advice or do you just want to vent? I don’t want to go barging in here with tips if that wouldn’t be appropriate.


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So I heard a comment that gay (and “even” bisexual) men simply cannot play badass roles.

captainamericasbiggestfan:

Well

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I hate

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to disagree

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but I’m afraid

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I have to.

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john-watson-is-sherlocked:

Wait, why is RDJ in this list?

 

unofficialsherlockian:

He says sexuality for him is a grey area, and basically it depends on who you talk to if he’s bisexual or not

 

comic-khan:

same with Misha, i’m guessing?

 

castielandhisbluebox:

^no Misha is openly bi

 

effortless-paradise:

excuse you

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i think you are

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forgetting somebody

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very important

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who deserves to be on this list

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phunkyvanspam:

#also who is the hottie with the hairdryer #right after zach quinto? #he’s the only one i don’t recognize (justice-turtle)

I’m faceblind, so take this with a grain of salt, but I strongly suspect it’s Neil Patrick Harris.


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#reply via reblog

dhalim:

house-lannister-bitch:

A little gem from the ever educational Wall Street Journal

I am ashamed by how much trouble I had with this.

I didn’t have any trouble, but only because I ignored the actual faces. I have more than enough Tumblr fandom osmosis to match these names with their costumes.

(That’s assuming the face next to each name is the face associated with that name, though, which I suppose might not be true.)


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#prosopagnosia #reply via reblog

shooter5503:

 

dhalim:

I’m sorry, but I really struggle with accepting the phrase ‘check your privilege’, especially in this case. Knowledge that prosopagnosia is relatively common is less than a decade old, and is still being realised even to those who are studying it- statistics are still being estimated, and they can’t seem to quite agree. Barely anyone knows about it even now, and if they have heard about it, I guarantee they really don’t understand it.

Prosopagnosia is hard enough to diagnose and understand for people who have it, let alone for someone else who doesn’t. For a neuro-typical to recognise it in other people or understand how it affects someone who does have it, this just isn’t really something I expect at this point.

Facial recognition is not a privilege, and it doesn’t allow you certain ‘rights’; it is an ability that some people lack. Perhaps I can’t speak for everyone, but I do not find the Prince Charming meme offensive in the slightest, because it’s so true! To me, it’s downright funny and does not deserve the commentary seen above.

The phrase “facial-recognition privilege” reeks of troll to me. It’s a standard anti-SJW tactic: manufacture evidence that they can later point to as proof that we are ridiculous people who deserve their mockery. (“Check your privilege” is one of the go-to phrases in such manufacturing.) I mostly hear of this technique being used on otherkin, but it wouldn’t surprise me if they’ve decided to branch out.


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abandonedgod asked: I’m sorry, as I already mentioned, I don’t know much about prosopagnosia but I’m genuinely interested in this topic. Would you mind if I asked if you can describe what you see when you look at other people’s faces? I hope I’m not being rude.

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I don’t think it’s rude at all, especially since I pretty much volunteered myself as an Example Prosopagnosic by answering your post (in first-person, no less).

I was born faceblind, so I don’t know what it’s like having a functional facial recognition processor. That makes it trickier to describe, since all I have to contrast it with are second-hand descriptions (which, in turn, were also tricky for them to make).

It’s not that I don’t see faces. That’s a common misconception. (To the extent that having any conception about prosopagnosia is common, though I think there’s been a lot of improvement in general awareness lately.) I just looked at my brother’s face, sitting over on the other couch, and it’s all there: pink-red lips, pale skin, nose, pimple, brown eyes, bangs. Thinking of that fresh memory, I can almost picture it. Sometimes, just for a moment, I can grasp it, but mostly the memory is blurred and lacking in detail.

(It feels perfectly natural, having it blurry like that. So natural that I didn’t even notice I was doing it until I read other prosos’ descriptions of it. There are hardly ever faces in my dreams, and that feels perfectly natural too.)

Note that my brother is one of the easiest people to picture. I’ve known him for all sixteen years of his life, and when you’re reliant on general object processing to recognise faces, experience with a given face counts for a lot. After knowing my friend Jacqueline for four years, I was able to successfully recognise her when I bumped into her in a mall*. I wouldn’t have been able to do that if I’d had less experience with her and her appearance. It took me about a year, maybe a year and a half, to reliably tell her two teenage daughters apart, but after six years of knowing them I’m not sure how I ever managed to have trouble.

(It’s good that they were teenage. Children are tricky. They change quickly, so by the time you’ve built up enough experience with one face to recognise them semi-reliably, they’ve gone and gotten themselves a different one. When my brother was six, I couldn’t distinguish him from the other boys in his Cub Scout den. I didn’t feel a sense of recognition at my own face in the mirror until my mid-teens, 2 – 3 years after my face stopped developing. (Even now, I can still tell which other faces I would have trouble distinguishing from my own, had I less experience with mine. Plus, I’m not entirely sure how much of the ease is due to my large glasses.))

If you want to read more, try looking through my prosopagnosia tag or dhalim’s blog. For another, very detailed perspective, Bill Choisser’s classic book, Face Blind!, is freely available on the Internet. (I haven’t read that book since I was first learning about prosopagnosia seven years ago, so I don’t remember at exactly which points my mileage varied. I do remember it being interesting, though.) The general prosopagnosia tag on Tumblr (which I track, and is how I found your post) sometimes has good stuff in it, though there’s also the occasional non-proso using us to make Profound Statements about Seeing People for Who They Are Rather Than What They Look Like and artworks depicting faceless people (see paragraph 3).

*Malls are tough. Absolutely anyone could be in the mall, so you can’t use context to narrow the list of potential suspects. (“She’s really tall and she’s at my Girl Scout meeting, so she must be Jenny, because Jenny is the only really tall girl in my troop.”)


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abandonedgod:

Even though I love this idea of Gallifreyans as a species having prosopagnosia, I’m still not sure if it’s actually true, since the Doctor has the habit of commenting his face and it’s distinct features (the chin, the eyebrows, i.e.) relatively often. I don’t know much about prosopagnosia and therefore I’m not sure whether it’s possible for people having/suffering from it to make such remarks. Does anybody know something more about that?

We can totally do that! In fact, things like distinctive eyebrows or sticky-out ears (the focus of Nine’s comments) are a big part of how we tell people apart.


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thetempest:

 

charamei:

Aaaaaahhhh no okay sorry I need to reblog it again because I am having Thoughts and Feelings

I mean Time Lords as a whole are awful at the concept of disguise I mean their major spy organisation has a distinctive black-and-white uniform which they never take off for crying out loud

But what we have when conversations like this happen is an unfortunate convergence of two Gallifreyan cultural things coming into play at the same time

#1 is Things Should Be Labelled As What They Are (aka Everyone Is In Uniform At All Times)*

*Romana somehow avoided this. Go you, Romana! You are the only one!

and #2 is Gallifreyans Are Prosopagnosic And Recognise One Another By Telepathy

And like yes if your entire species is faceblind and its primary sense is telepathy (and on the whole its members have a much lower sense of individuality than humans do because of the hivemind) of course the emphasis on clothing is going to be different

Humans use clothing to protect and cover up, yeah, but we also use it to show off and to express ourselves and neither of those things is nearly as important to a hiveminded species with vision as a secondary sense as it is to us

Gallifreyans use clothing as a label because Things Should Be Labelled As What They Are

Is it orange with a single V-stripe and double sleeves and a reasonably heavy weight of fabric well then clearly you are a Prydonian Time Lord

And yes the renegades do this too the lack of a uniform is the Renegade Uniform I would refer you to the fact that the Master is always in black and the Doctor picks a single theme per regeneration and sticks with it unless major trauma happens (looking at you, Eight)

Things Should Be Labelled As What They Are and so when the Doctor picks a new wardrobe at the start of a regeneration all they are really doing is re-applying the Renegade label hello yes I am a renegade this is my new renegade uniform

(It must have taken poor Twelve quite some time to come up with the cunning plan of wearing a different uniform I mean that is some hardcore breakage of Gallifreyan brainwashing there)

So for Gallifreyan Norm #1 we have ‘Nobody ever wears clothing that doesn’t indicate their function in society therefore nobody will ever suspect I am a renegade if I am wearing a Shobogan’s uniform, not even Clara’

And then for #2 there’s this unfortunate thing that Gallifreyans don’t see faces and like yes I’m sure the Doctor is aware that humans do recognise one another by sight (they go through this every time they regenerate after all) and they know their face hasn’t changed since Clara last saw them

But

What does ‘sight’ mean

Well clearly since everyone is always wearing a uniform it means face + uniform

This face + that coat = Sixth Doctor whereas this face + guard uniform = Commander Maxil

Oh sure my face is the same but Clara won’t recognise me as me because I am not wearing my renegade uniform she’ll just think I’m a Shobogan with a very similar face that’s how humans work right?

No Doctor

No it isn’t

But nice try


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Can you tell who this is?

dhalim:

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My first gif! I spent way more time on this than I probably should have. Anywho, I put this together from a Brain Games episode on National Geographics (Episode name is called “Patterns” for those of you who are interested).

I want your feed back- when could you tell who this was the first time you saw the gif? Was it the 2nd text “Did you get it yet?”, or was it not until the 3rd or last text that you could tell? Please be honest.

My prediction- those with Prosopagnosia figure it out faster than those who are neurotypical (NTs). Why is this? Because we are used to piecing it together with less information, where NTs require more facial information before they know. Perhaps we just found the evolutionary advantage to prosopagnosia?

I suspected it might be Abraham Lincoln when I could only see around the edge, but the more they revealed, the less sure I got, until by the end I was convinced it wasn’t him. You tagged the post “Abraham Lincoln”, so I guess I should’ve gone with my first thought.

I note that when I took one of those online facial recognition quizzes, I had a similar experience with Barack Obama: my first thought was that it was him, but then I thought “no, that can’t be him, he isn’t that old” and failed the question (like I did every other question on that quiz). I’d forgotten how much politics ages you. (Though in Lincoln’s case, the “no, that can’t be him” was because this face looks too wide to be him.)

(Who says there has to be an evolutionary advantage? All a trait really has to do to stick around is not get you killed too often.)


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