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brin-bellway:

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brin-bellway:

@rustingbridges replied:

tomatoes really don’t travel well

they’re one of the fruits where the supermarket variety is the supermarket variety because it survives the trip, not because they’re good

meanwhile tomato plants are really low effort. if you have favorable conditions you can do literally nothing

Where are you *finding* conditions that aren’t full of weeds and wildlife-competing-with-you-for-the-food and the occasional blight? A greenhouse?

(…actually, that might not be a bad idea. I *have* heard of people building little personal greenhouses in their backyards, and nothing keeps squirrels from taking one bite out of your mom’s tomato and walking away like a fucking *door*, right?)

Re: surviving the trip, home-grown zucchinis taste about the same but we’ve noticed the shelf life is *vastly* longer. Store-bought zucchinis start to shrivel up and go soft within a few days of bringing them home; home-grown zucchinis can sit in the fridge for several *weeks*. Makes it a lot easier to plan your meals.

Honestly, probably a good part of my problem with gardening is that, because *Mom* loves home-grown tomatoes for some fucking reason, they end up the focal point of the garden and a great deal of my gardening-related labour is thoroughly alienated: I never see the fruits *or* the vegetables of my labour.

A garden optimised for what *I* thought was most worth growing would have zero tomatoes and more garlic and zucchini, with perhaps just enough potatoes to keep in practice so that I can put potatoes in the victory garden. And probably more perennials like mulberries. And possibly mushrooms. And I would want to do a bunch of research and expert-consultation regarding which weeds are secretly edible, since anything *that* easy to grow sounds like something I should take advantage of.

(I’ve been meaning to do some more digging into how to eat dandelions. I’ve heard you can put the new greens in salads and the petals in pancake batter, but I don’t normally eat salads *or* pancakes. Can you just, like, munch on a raw dandelion flower straight-up? Can I fulfil my childhood dream of eating a pretty flower I found in the backyard?)

 

brin-bellway:

@larshuluk replied:

Yeah, you can just munch any part of dandelion – I often do that when I’m reading in the garden. Older leaves get bitter and shouldn’t be eaten in big amounts, and roots need cooking. Flower is just fine though.

Hell yeah!

This is another area where I like a lot of the things the communing-with-nature people are putting out but for completely different reasons. I want to know more about the natural world around me *so that I can exploit it better*. Which wildflowers can I eat? What’s the name of that one plant where when you run through a field of them it sounds like popcorn popping? Can I eat those too?!

(I never stopped wanting to stick interesting plants in my mouth: I just learned to resist it, to assume everything was poisonous until proven otherwise. And for the most part, nobody ever taught me which interesting plants I didn’t have to resist.)

 

rustingbridges:

I never stopped wanting to stick interesting plants in my mouth: I just learned to resist it

i never learned this and im still alive. i like to think it’s made me stronger

as for tomatos I don’t think you have to do that much? if your soil and weather conditions are good you can just put the seeds in the ground and come back later to find that you have a giant cherry tomato bush which is overrunning the rest of your garden and that produces way to many tomatos for any ten people to eat

if you don’t have this you might need to water them? I remember watering tomatos. most of the weeds around here don’t get tall enough to fuck with tomatos much. if it’s a major issue you can put them in pots I guess. we never had trouble with squirrels, altho we did have to stop growing tomatos in the backyard because one of the dogs ate them all. I don’t grow many tomatos because I don’t like tomatos, but fresh ones really are better.

idk about potatos specifically but I think durable transportable stuff like potatos and onions is the relative advantage of actual farmers. relative to growing fragile vegetables that kind of thing is probably only worth doing to the extent you’re having fun with it

 

florescent–luminescence:

My mom has tried to grow tomatoes pretty much every year for the past 10+ years and we have had very few home-grown tomatoes to eat

It might be where we live– people not from here think you can grow anything in Georgia but the summer heat really is too much for a lot of plants to handle. The state was also plagued by droughts for a lot of my childhood.

We also had a lot of Critters come sample the garden. Deer, squirrels, rabbits, tomato hornworms, etc etc etc. It always made my mom SO dismayed to come outside one morning to find that a deer had chomped off the entire top half of her biggest tomato plant, but you’d think she would have learned to expect it after about the fourth time

We DID sometimes get to eat the tomatoes if we picked them while still green and then used them for fried green tomatoes. Fried green tomatoes are really delicious. It’s just not what we had wanted to have when we planted tomatoes!

 

rustingbridges:

I’ll admit I don’t know anything about Georgia. I think it’s where depressing movies about plantations take place. it produces SCAD students. there’s a big airport I’ve never connected thru.

I asked my mother about tomatos and her opinion is that they’re easy to grow but you have to water them very regularly or else they’ll be sad and also blighted. this is maybe extra true if it’s very hot and sunny, which I’ve been told is the case in georgia. conversely farther north you may have trouble getting enough sun? that could make tomatos slower, maybe

idk about deer. the three places I’ve grown tomatos were:

  • suburb, but not near the forest so no deer. plenty of squirrels and rabbits but they were never a problem
  • fire escape. only cats and pigeons, neither of which are much trouble for tomatos
  • middle of nowhere. shitloads of deer but in the summer they just eat stuff in the forest. huge problem for slow growing perennials but not so much for tomatos

( @rustingbridges, @larshuluk, @florescent–luminescence )

The previous post [link] reminded me to post an update on this:

>>What’s the name of that one plant where when you run through a field of them it sounds like popcorn popping? Can I eat those too?!

I took a picture of a popcorn flower and searched by similar images, and it’s a Plantago lanceolata (sometimes called a ribwort plantain). And apparently you *can* kind of eat them [link], though it’s more of a medicinal thing than a food thing.


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incurablenecromantic:

Sometimes people like to write things about florist’s shops.  Here are two things you need to know, the most egregiously wrong things.

1. It makes no fucking sense to sketch out a bouquet before you make it.  Every individual flower is different in a way that cannot really be adjusted the way other building materials can be adjusted, and each individual bouquet is unique.  Just put the fucking flowers together.

2. No one — in months and months of working at the flower shop — has ever cared what the flower/color of the flower means.  No one’s ever asked.  It’s just not something people tend to care about outside of fiction and it’s certainly not something most florists know.  You know what florists know?  What looks good and is thematically appropriate.

Here’s an actual list of the symbology of flowers, as professionals use it:

Yellow – for friends, hospitals
Pink – girls, girlfriends, babies, bridesmaids
Red – love
Purple – queens
White – marriage and death (DO NOT SEND TO HOSPITALS)
Pink and purple – ur mum
Red, orange, and yellow – ur mum if she’s stylish
Red, yellow, blue – dudes and small children
Blue and white – rare, probably a wedding
Red and white – love for fancy bitches

Here are what the flowers actually mean to a florist:

The Fill It Out flowers:

Carnations – fuck u these are meaningless filler-flowers, not even your administrative assistant likes them, show some creativity
Alstroemeria – by and large very similar to carnations but I like them better
Tea roses – cute and lil and come several to a stalk, a classy filler flower
Moluccella laevis – filler flower but CHOICE
Delphinium – not as interesting as moluccella but purple so okay I guess
Blue thistle – FUCK YEAH, some fucking textural variety at last!  you’re getting this for a dude, aren’t you?
Chrysanthemums – barely better than carnations but better is still better
Gladiolus – ooh, risky business, someone understands the use of the Y-axis, very good

Focal points:

Long-stem roses – yeah whatever
Lilies – LBD, looks good with everything, get used as often as possible
Hydrangeas – thirsty fuckers, divas of the flower world and rightly so, treat them right and they make you look good
Gerbera daisies – the rose’s hippie cousin, hotter but no one admits it
Peonies – CHA-CHING, everybody’s absolute favorite but you need guap
Orchids – if this isn’t for a wedding you’re probably trying too hard but they’re expensive so keep ordering them

You know what matters?  THE CUSTOMER’S BUDGET.  THAT’S TELLING.

-$20 – if you’re not under 12, fuck off, get your sugar something else
$30 – good for bouquets but an arrangement will be lame
$40 – getting there, there’s something that can be done with that.  you can get some gerbs or roses with that and not have them look stupidly solo.
$50 to $70 – tolerable
$80 – FINALLY.  It sounds elitist but this really is the basic amount of money you should expect to spend on an arrangement that matters.  That’s your Mother’s Day arrangement.  You’re probably not going to spend $80 on a bouquet.
$90 to $130 – THE GOOD SHIT, you’re likely to get some orchids
$130+  – Weddings and death.  This amount of money gets you a memorial arrangement or a handmade bridal bouquet.  Don’t spend this on a Mother’s Day or a Babe I Love You arrangement, buy whosits a massage or something.

Miscellaneous:

  • Everything needs greening and if you don’t think that you’re an idiot. 
  • As a new employee, when you start making arrangements, you can’t see the mistakes you’re making because you’re brand new and you’re learning an art form from the ground up.
  • With a few exceptions customers don’t have a clear plan in mind.  They want you to develop the bouquet for them.  They want something that will delight their little sweetbread but you’re lucky if they know that person’s favorite color, let alone flower.
  • Flower shops don’t typically have every kind of flower in every kind of color.  Customers generally aren’t assed about that.  Most people don’t care about the precise shade of the rose or having daffodils in July, because they’re not boning up on flower language before they buy.  That would imply that they’ve got a clear bouquet in mind and, again, they don’t.
  • Being a florist is essentially a lot like what I imagine being a mortician is about.  You’re basically keeping dead things looking good for as long as possible.  You keep the product in the fridge so it doesn’t rot and look horrible by the time the family gets a whack at it, and in the meanwhile you put it in a nice container.

Anyway that’s flowers.

 

friendlytroll:

this is magnificent and I love hearing about ppl job feilds

 

cannibalcoalition:

I have… some thoughts on this as a florist in a different region, but I will have to tackle that when I’m not at work.

 

cannibalcoalition:

Okay, I’m back from work and I can address this. OP has long deleted this post, likely due to the many many responses. It’s also notable that they appear to be from the UK, and that there are regional and cultural differences between shops. 

They are right that I have never encountered a person who sketches out a bouquet before they make it. If you’ve been in floristry long enough, figuring out what piece is going to look like kind of comes as second nature- you develop a sense of color, space, balance, and texture over time and practice. The only time I ever sketch out a piece is if I’m planning something that requires some engineering. (The 4×4 Cleveland Browns helmet mounted on a funeral spray, the open heart we had to mount on a cremation board, the Red Bull can made out of carns on an easel- stuff that you have to figure out before you ruin your Oasis form.) 

In regards to floral meanings, they matter to who they matter to. The majority of people who ask the meanings of flowers are clueless dudes who are worried that their lady friend might take it the wrong way if they send them red roses. These are usually fellas who are new to the relationship and don’t really know their boundaries. Go on- fit that in your AU.

We get people asking the meanings of roses, specifically, about once a month unless its a major floral holiday (mother’s day, valentine’s day, sweetest day) then we get it all day long. It’s usually a last-minute decision, but there are exceptions to every rule.

The people who care and researched floriography generally know that your average florist is going to have limited information, and just go in with a list of flowers their piece must contain. 

In regards to the colors-

Most of that is true in America as well, with some exceptions-

Purple is a common color to send to mothers and other women in your family, or anyone who just loves purple. 

White is more common for funerals, but we also get requests for them for high-end things like for retail spaces and fancy realtors. I’ve never had an issue sending white roses to hospitals, and most folks who are from cultures that read heavily into the symbolism of white flowers (specifically East Asia,) will tell you up front not to include white.

Blues are a rare color for flowers and if you see a blue rose it is dyed. We do not get many weddings with blue roses because our blue is very vibrant and many brides prefer pastels. But that is a regional thing and I think that if you go more towards the South you’d find more brides with vibrant inclinations. 

Blue and white together are also very common colors for funerals, but also for Jewish celebrations because of the colors of the flag of Israel. Was really big last year for Rosh Hashanah, not so much this year. 

I disagree fundamentally with a lot of OP’s opinions on types of flowers, but taste is subjective- which is something that you learn in floristry. I happen to love carnations- they really do come in just about every color. There’s a variety called Stacatto that adds a cool texture to everything. The anti-carn sentiments run rather deep where I am, but I think that for about half the population if you pointed to a carnation they wouldn’t be able to identify it. 

Like I said- taste is subjective. And a talented designer is capable of making a good design out of any flower. 

Prices on the whole will vary from region to region, shop to shop. My shop has some of the lowest prices you’re going to find in the area because our store has developed rapport with wholesalers over the course of an entire century. But most flower shops work through FTD, which has a specific price guide they have to follow. Chances are that your bouquets start around $50, which jumps up to $80 around floral holidays. 

Arrangements in clear vases will need greening to hold the flowers in place. Pieces using Oasis foam do not need greening because the foam will hold them. 

People who are adamant in regards to specific flowers will make a stink about not having certain flowers. I’ve had a funeral director scream at me because we couldn’t get Lily of the Valley, told us to ship them from Holland. It’s not common, but it happens enough at our shop to be worthy of mentioning. 

There is so much, so much,  in the floristry business so there is no definitive guide. There are many things left out in this post because my experience is limited to my one shop in the Midwest. 

I will say this about flower shop AU’s, though: 

Having talked with a number of florists across the US, there is one thing that most flower shop AU’s leave out and that is the drama. This is not a boring job. I know it seems like it from the outside looking in, but there is a lot of drama at most flower shops: between designers, between drivers, customers, wholesalers, growers, climate, mechanics, event organizers, recipients… there are many moving parts to a flower shop and keeping them all working together means a lot of trial and error. There is much potential there for character development that I think could be utilized, I’d like to see people explore that more. 

This has been a bit more than two cents. Thank you for listening. 


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honeywives:

people who slander dandelions are so boring. oh you don’t like weeds?? you don’t want to see my yard absolutely covered in fairy pom moms motherfucker??? get bent 

as a small child I used to argue vehemently that dandelions weren’t weeds, because “weeds are plants you DON’T want!”

I know, right?!

On the bright side, nobody else caring about “”weeds”” means they don’t mind if you pick them and make a beautiful bouquet for your mommy. Or try to see if you can figure out this “flower crown” concept you’ve vaguely heard about. Or dissect them and test their various liquids on a piece of tree bark to see if any of them dye it an interesting colour.

(*Looking* at flowers is one of the most boring things to do with them, and it’s a shame that roses and the like are reserved for such boring purposes.)

You, you get me.


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gasmaskaesthetic:

honeywives:

people who slander dandelions are so boring. oh you don’t like weeds?? you don’t want to see my yard absolutely covered in fairy pom moms motherfucker??? get bent 

as a small child I used to argue vehemently that dandelions weren’t weeds, because “weeds are plants you DON’T want!”

I know, right?!

On the bright side, nobody else caring about “”weeds”” means they don’t mind if you pick them and make a beautiful bouquet for your mommy. Or try to see if you can figure out this “flower crown” concept you’ve vaguely heard about. Or dissect them and test their various liquids on a piece of tree bark to see if any of them dye it an interesting colour.

(*Looking* at flowers is one of the most boring things to do with them, and it’s a shame that roses and the like are reserved for such boring purposes.)


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brin-bellway:

slepaulica:

brin-bellway:

live-vibe:

Landscape blog here

Thank you, Sean Bagshaw!

(Interesting that the original picture is more purple than this version. I think I actually like this one better; it seems more ethereal. Anyway, I’ve encountered too many artists’ complaints and PSAs to dare reblog sourceless art.)

thank you for finding source!

Google search-by-image can be very helpful. I’m pretty sure every one of those PSAs I’ve seen had a section on Google Is Your Friend (Also Our Friend) (But WeHeartIt Is Not Friendly). After a few repetitions it sunk in.

usually when i add stuff to my queue, it needs to be a fairly quick operation or i lose interest. but i support the concept of finding sources. and will try to do it when i can. if the internet isn’t co-operating (sometimes i can access some websites but not others), it can be too much.

Note: source link is now rotten, but still available through Wayback [link].

(While I was not the one who submitted it, I *have* been applying my new linking policy [link] retroactively where possible.  (There’s a reason my Dreamwidth’s subtitle is “now with 50% more Internet Archive”.))


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canadian-space-agency:

First ever flower grown in space!

This zinnia flower was not selected for his beauty (although it is super cute!), but because it can help scientists understand how plants flower and grow in microgravity.

“It is a more difficult plant to grow, and allowing it to flower, along with the longer growth duration, makes it a good precursor to a tomato plant” said Trent Smith, Veggie project manager at NASA.

Photo: NASA Astronaut Scott Kelly


Credit: Canadian Space Agency’s Facebook Account


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