mylittleredgirl:

kiranerysismyhero:

the other day i listened to an episode of subspace transmissions about the ‘bad boys’ of Star Trek and i’m still not over how they completely missed the biggest bad boy of ds9 and possibly the entire franchise: Dax

  • has been a boy several times, if we’re being literal
  • no one is better with the ladies (and guys, others, both and neither) than Jadzia
  • loveable rogue? Ezri stole a shuttle once and Jadzia was prepared to kill a guy with a bat’leth, and those are just the first two examples that spring to mind
  • can hustle Ferengi at Tongo
  • Curzon existed
  • not always good at mentoring a host candidate, if we take “bad” literally
  • also, murder is bad
  • party worm
  • that time curzon dax set fire to the most dangerous bar in the sector probably just for fun
  • confirmed alien fucker since at least the mid-23rd century
  • can you even imagine playing never have i ever with Dax can you IMAGINE

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#got a point there #Star Trek #DS9

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nikkifromtabs:

i wish i was capable of writing narratively because there is absolutely a fanfiction wanting to exist where the crew of ds9 collectively comes to the agreement that “wormhole aliens” is a really shitty and disrespectful way to refer to your coworker’s sincerely held religious beliefs re: her gods so the bulk of the episode has all non-bajorans randomly trying on different ways to refer to them without saying they are gods because starfleet has a stick up its ass about admitting any given religion can be provably correct. episode ends with an exasperated kira telling everybody that wormhole aliens is way better than anything theyve come up with so please just drop it

the comedy b-plot is odo futilely trying to recycle the euphemisms into explaining to weyoun that he’s not divine and the Founders are not infallible, but it’s small versus far away and weyoun just cant grasp it


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edosianorchids901:

plain-simple-ran:

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Can we pls talk about how Andy Robinson, as a claustrophobic man, in the Deep Space Nine episode “By Inferno’s Light” had to play a claustrophobic alien getting a claustrophobic panic attack from being inside a very small and narrow space ALL WHILE wearing a very constricting costume that actually gave him a very real claustrophobic panic attack the first time he wore it? Like, damn son… that is dedication

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From the DS9 companion. Andy is marvelous!


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#holy shit #Star Trek #DS9 #Elim Garak #claustrophobia

allamaraine asked: Kira + art

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little-brisk:

brin-bellway:

little-brisk:

The first two things that come to mind:

  • a flock of flightless birds
  • once i wrote a story in which kira shoots a fresco

So we are more or less doomed, here. I haven’t thought about this much before, but here are my impressions at a first attempt.

Art for Kira is, first, about ruin. About damage, and loss. That is what violent occupations do to art. This is her first concept of art: stolen paintings and sculptures, damaged buildings, a campaign of disinformation about Bajoran achievements in the arts.

Then art must be, later, about recovery, about salvage. What can be restored, recovered, unburied.

Kira doesn’t have much in the way of an aesthetic sensibility, or at least that’s what she would claim. She forms strong attachments to art objects, and articulating why, or what it is about the object’s aesthetic features that draws her to it, is less interesting to her than the fact of the object and the fact of her attachment.

Perhaps she begins with a disdain for ‘pure decoration,’ prizing only art that has a use: prayer mandalas, for example. But perhaps with time she starts to see that the useful/decorative binary doesn’t hold up. What if something is useful because of the feeling it provokes? What if, like her prayer mandala, a useful object is also decorative? These simple questions occur to her relatively late in life, and the result is that she develops a reverence for the very fact of objects that provoke them.

She will never be a collector, but she will learn that to stand before a beautiful thing in contemplation of it is a worthwhile act – and it is an act that demands that the work of art be referred to itself, and not to any gesture of possession or mastery. She will for this reason prefer museums to private possessions, and temples to museums.

That act of contemplation is itself an act of recovery, of restoration and unburial. And for this reason, she will work hard to see that Bajor’s art finds public homes, that art objects are returned to the places that first housed them, and that any space – a temple, a museum, a library archive – devoted to art objects will be freely accessible to anyone, so that those recuperative acts of contemplation belong to anyone, to everyone.

This is a good post, I like this post, the fic you actually linked is new to me and looks interesting, but I would also like to know what fic you intended to link. It doesn’t look to be this one, what with the “Oparu” in the author’s-name section.

Damn! Thanks for pointing that out, Brin. This is the story I meant.

Athough obviously you should all also read Opal’s TNG/VOY mirrorverse story, ’Shards and Fairytales,’ which was in my copypaste because I was reccing it to someone!


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#(January 2014) #I forgot to tag my response with ”reply via reblog” #so I didn’t catch this when looking through that tag for threads to aglet #but I’m formatting this post on my WordPress mirror right now and realised what was missing #conversational aglets #Star Trek #DS9 #recs

The Sorting Hat Chats System – Elim Garak (Deep Space 9)

wisteria-lodge:

Right. This was supposed to be a DS9 sorting, and it got… a little out of hand.

I blame the very complex @sortinghatchats (not really.) Anyway, their system gets very deep very fast, so I recommend their breakdown of the basics, but basically, their character analysis system gives everyone TWO houses.

Your Primary house is your MOTIVATION. It’s why you do what you do

  • GRYFFINDOR: I do what I feel is right (MORAL)
  • RAVENCLAW: I do what I decide is correct (LOGICAL)
  • HUFFLEPUFF: I do what helps my community (PEOPLE MATTER)
  • SLYTHERIN: I do what helps me/my inner circle (FRIENDS MATTER) 

Your Secondary house is your METHOD. It’s your toolbox, how you like to get stuff done; 

  • GRYFFINDOR: Charge! React! Smash the system!
  • RAVENCLAW: Plan, make tools, gather information.
  • HUFFLEPUFF: Community-build, grind for points, call in favors
  • SLYTHERIN: Transform, adapt, find the loophole

So Hermione Granger would be a Gryffindor Primary / Ravenclaw Secondary. She fights for her moral cause by gathering knowledge and learning skills. 

Now let’s talk about Elim Garak. What did I get myself into.


Elim Garak wants you to look at him and see a double Slytherin pretending to be a double Hufflepuff. And his Puff performance is really just the thinnest, most pathetic layer possible. Barely enough for plausible deniability. Lots of “Whhhaaa, lil’old ME? A poor simple TAILOR who wants NOTHING MORE than to make BEAUTIFUL CLOTHES for the people of this FINE STATION? That top secret security clearance code was… something I happened to OVERHEAR. While hemming PANTS.”

Yeah. You are supposed to dismiss that immediately, look beneath “plain, simple Garak” and see the Obsidian Order operative. You are supposed to look at Elim Garak and see a suave, dangerous chameleon who is always lying, always looking out for himself, very International-Man-of-Mystery, very classical Slytherin. (And kind of a flattering self-portrait, if we’re being honest.)

But that’s not real either. 

When we see Garak’s real Slytherin Secondary – it’s terrifying. Because it’s subtle. When Garak is really lying, really manipulating, you won’t know it until long after the game is played. We see him maneuver Captain Sisko into assassinating an ambassador by feeding him just the right information at just the right time, ramping up the stakes, giving him space, playing into the sunk-cost fallacy, persuading Sisko to bend the rules just a little bit… and a little bit more…

Garak is a master at this. He gets Julian Bashir to run a dangerous errand in “The Wire” by deliberately pinging his hero tendencies – and dropping the name of the relevant system into the conversation, making it look like the natural slip-up of a sick, dying man. Julian goes after Tain for him, and goes after Dukat for him. Garak once deflected an attempt on his life by planting a second bomb himself. 

He’s got one hell of a Ravenclaw secondary too. This is Garak the hacker, Garak the codebreaker, Garak who can re-wire a subspace transmitter under truly adverse conditions. But I think that his Ravenclaw is a tool that’s been trained into him – it’s not close to his identity, it’s not close to his heart. When Garak thinks “Ravenclaw Secondary” he thinks of the borderline omniscient Enabran Tain, and knows that his own Ravenclaw is only a pale imitation. Enabran Tain himself is a surprisingly straightforward Slytherin/Ravenclaw – but Garak’s got such a twisted, messy relationship with him that it’s spilled into the way he relates to Ravenclaw Secondaries in general. 

But. Garak is not the Obsidian Order’s best assassin. He’s not their best spy. He’s not their best code-breaker. He is their best interrogator. So what does that mean???

Interrogation styles + Hogwarts Houses

I’ll admit this question lead me down a sort of research rabbit hole. I know all kinds of things about interrogators and interrogation techniques now, and it’ll probably screw up my algorithms for a little bit. But I’ll talk in terms of Hogwarts houses and fictional characters, because that’s the lens I’m looking though. 

You can definitely interrogate with all the Secondaries. There’s the Gryffindor approach: just steamroll over your subject with conviction and energy. (Batman, Jack Bauer). There’s the Ravenclaw method: cold, controlled, omniscient, your subject is simply a puzzle, a Rubik’s Cube to be solved. (The Stazi ‘hero’ of The Lives of Others, most villainous interrogators.) There’s even the favored Slytherin approach, where you stage things so the subject doesn’t even know they’re being interrogated. (Gus Fring of Breaking Bad interrogating people under the guise of cooking with them, or explaining a job to them, or serving them food. Marina of The Magicians pretending to be an overwhelmed new recruit in order to vet Julia.) 

But the more I read about the very best, most successful real-world interrogators, the more I read about sympathy, empathy, respect, compassion, friendliness. Good interrogators are easy to talk to. They want to understand where you’re coming from. They’ll give you coffee, or scotch. They’ll watch TV with you. “I totally get why you did it, hell, I would have done exactly the same thing in your situation. I want to help you out. You’re not really in trouble. I’m just confused – I think my boss got this one part wrong. Wait, before we get into that, a funny thing happened to me on the way to work.” The current thinking says that star interrogators are Hufflepuffs. Or at least Slytherin Secondaries who are really good at looking like Hufflepuffs. There aren’t too many straightforward fictional examples – Will Graham of Hannibal, maybe? 

But this is how Garak interrogates. He prides himself on never touching his subjects – he doesn’t need to. All he needs is a tiny bit of Cardassian threat in the background. When he successfully breaks Odo, it’s because he comes at the situation as a friend. (And the way he justifies it as “just business” matches up with my research.) Garak is charming, and funny, and really good at understanding people. I also think his general look helps him interrogate. Most high-ranking Cardassians look like Dukat: dark hair, dark eyes, tall. It’s probably an “aristocratic” thing: our fascist space lizards definitely messed around with genetic augmentation / eugenics at some point. But compact little Garak? With his bright blue eyes? Lower class. (After all, his mom was a housekeeper.) 

I bet Garak leveraged that vibe into approachable and trustworthy, used it to seem more on a level with his Bajoran detainees. Imagine what a relief Garak would be, after talking to Dukat for five hours. 

So. Is Garak a Slytherin Secondary with a really good Hufflepuff model, or a Hufflepuff Secondary with a really good Slytherin model? I thought about that one for a while. And I’ve come down on the side of Hufflepuff. 

It’s just. He keeps up that Hufflepuff outside the interrogation booth, when it isn’t useful. Garak creates communities, almost involuntarily, even when it’s a bad idea. (Getting close to Julian and Ziyal was risky.) It bothers Garak that his friendships are so real. He hates that the dirty looks the Bajorans give him bother him so much. He has a huge network of contacts, still. And his problem-solving fallback is not Slyth transformation, but Puff diligence. Stare at the detainee for four hours. Assassinate the politician by spending six months pruning bushes at the embassy. He’s “a very good tailor” after all. I can’t help but think that a more Slytherin Garak would have at least been tempted to make a quick buck doing odd jobs for Quark. Or apolitical Odo, who he clearly respects. But no – Garak sets himself up with a job that requires a down-to-earth Hufflepuff work ethic.

In “Purgatory’s Shadow” Garak thinks that his life is really, truly threatened. And he responds by asking for help. He does it in an absurdly underhanded Slytherin way, but. When he is in trouble, Garak phones a friend. Watch him. That is always his first instinct.

[The one Secondary Garak just absolutely does not understand is Gryffindor. He respects Gryffindor Secondaries, and he recognizes that people like Kira and Dax have them – and then he just gives those people a lot of space.]

Figuring out Garak’s primary was actually pretty easy. Because before he is anything else, Elim Garak is a Cardassian patriot. That motivation is so clear and so loud that it cuts though everything else no problem. He’d die for Cardassia. He’d let Julian die for Cardassia. He’d commit genocide for Cardassia. And if there was a single Gryffindor bone in Garak’s entire body, he would have felt at least a little guilty about that last one. But Garak seems to distrust the entire concept of morality, the way a lot of Loyalist Primaries do. “A real intelligence agent has no ego, no conscience, no remorse, only a sense of professionalism.” As far as I can figure out, that’s his credo. 

But you know what Garak does feel guilty about doing?

Helping the Federation fight Cardassia. 

Even though he knows “Cardassia” is a Dominion-controlled puppet state, even though he knows he’s doing what’s best for his planet in the long run, when he’s decrypting messages that help Federation ships kill Cardassian citizens, he gets debilitating panic attacks. 

But Garak is not loyal to the Cardassian High Command. He’s not even loyal to the Obsidian Order, not really. He’s loyal to an ideal, to an almost poetic sense of what Cardassia really is, that has more to do with art and literature and tradition than it does with politics. And he is never able to shake this feeling, even though at a certain point I think he could have sold his soul to be a Slytherin Primary, loyal only to Enabran Tain. 

Because if you want to talk about Garak, you have to talk about why he is living in exile. He gives Julian three different explanations: he got sloppy, he got lazy, and he sabotaged himself. I’m sure Garak has believed all of these himself, at one point or another. But I think he’s too much of a solid Hufflepuff Secondary to get sloppy or lazy, so I’m going to look at the last one. What happens when the *real* Cardassia shifts too far away from the *ideal* Cardassia that Garak is loyal to? When families like the Dukats gain too much power? I think Garak starts making mistakes, because he can’t reconcile that crack in his Primary. Just like when he makes mistakes later on, forced to fight his Cardassian countrymen. 

tl;dr

Garak is a double Hufflepuff, loyal to a sort of ideal Cardassia. He can model one hell of a Ravenclaw secondary, and one hell of a Slytherin secondary, but in the end they are not as close to his soul – not as important to who he is as a person – as that Hufflepuff. But he’s still a spy. So he constructs a very careful performance that he wears… most of the time. And that performance is an exaggerated double Slytherin pretending to be an exaggerated double Hufflepuff. 

So yeah. I am saying that Garak is a double Hufflepuff who pretends to be a double Hufflepuff. And I think that would make him smile. 

JULIAN: Of all the stories you told me, which ones were true and which ones weren’t? 

GARAK: My dear doctor, they’re all true. 

JULIAN: Even the lies? 

GARAK: Especially the lies. 

Also, thank you @featherquillpen for the charming episode write-ups. They were a source of inspiration. 


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humanfist:

prince-atom:

spockvarietyhour:

This might as well be a Brooklyn 99 cold open

“How did your meeting with the Commander go?”

“It was acceptable.  I understand he was irritated by my precise recitation of the length of time since we had seen each other, during the small talk phase.”

“Hmm.  You might try being less precise?  Or suggest some uncertainty in your estimation?  Like, ‘Five years, more or less,’ that sort of thing?”

“I have attempted such artifice in the past, yes, with Captain Jackson of the USS Ranger.”

“Was that any good?”

“It took me three days to convince them that I was not an impostor and that I should be released from the brig.”

Send him to the brig, he didn’t say how many minutes they locked him up.


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#oh look an update #Star Trek #DS9 #anything that makes me laugh this much deserves a reblog

prince-atom:

spockvarietyhour:

This might as well be a Brooklyn 99 cold open

“How did your meeting with the Commander go?”

“It was acceptable.  I understand he was irritated by my precise recitation of the length of time since we had seen each other, during the small talk phase.”

“Hmm.  You might try being less precise?  Or suggest some uncertainty in your estimation?  Like, ‘Five years, more or less,’ that sort of thing?”

“I have attempted such artifice in the past, yes, with Captain Jackson of the USS Ranger.”

“Was that any good?”

“It took me three days to convince them that I was not an impostor and that I should be released from the brig.”


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#Star Trek #DS9 #fanfic #anything that makes me laugh this much deserves a reblog


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